User talk:RobJ1981

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RE: Article creation and improvementdrive
I agree, I think we need more content here, and your idea sounds good to me. Question, if I were to create a PPV article, would I just list the bare minimum results, or try to expand it like we would on Wikipedia? Cheers, L  A  X  04:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Holy crap! Sorry for taking so long, Rob. Anyway, I'm really busy in real life, and when I get home I just want to be lazy. Whenever I fee like doing something, it is generally something on Wikipedia. I don't know of anyone willing to create articles who hasn't already joined ad left, unless you want to unblock Monnitewars. However, he's incredibly disruptive, and has targeted me specifically for abuse ever since I tried to make him shape up; I think that he even compromised my account so he could report me to a staffer for admin abuse. The dispute is here, and spread out through 3 different sections if you want to look at it. I wouldn't recommend unblocking him, as upon his return he'll try to turn us against each other, but if you want someone who has no where else to edit about wrestling, there's your guy. --  The Hybrid  T /C   05:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

E-Wrestling Encyclopedia is offering to private chat
Hey there RobJ1981,

It's Sundogs from E-Wrestling Encyclopedia and I noticed your post and I made a little response to it. However, I know that you and the rest of Pro Wrestling Wiki administration team like to have more people to help out here at Pro Wrestling Wiki. If we could talk after the new year, I can pass some ideas to you so that you can pass along to the others. My signature has my proper contact info if you like to respond. If you like to send me a priviate email, just click email this user on my main or talk pages and I will respond to you ASAP of yours (be sure you have an active email to respond to please). I am looking forward to talking with you. Sundogs user 01:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Your Comment
I repsonded to your comment on the projects talk page and I see the Brian Adams does have a lot of information and it's pretty much the same as the information on his Wikipedia page as his Wikia page. Your comment on the projects is redundant in a sense. Mr. C.C. 08:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks For The Welcome, I Have Some Ideas
Thanks for the message I only came across this place the other day and see its kind of just a rip of Wiki in some places but given time I’ll add my hand to some of the UK based sections and expand on them properly.

Only thing I so see that’s a bit of a big problem here is categories and if its alright that would be where I’d make my first mark here.

Personally I feel their should be categories for each nationality as well as birth years death years maybe event years then Alumni for ever possible active and inactive company around and maybe one for each active company so say for example Christopher Daniels he would be down for being on the TNA Roster as well as NJPW but would also be Alumni in PWG, ROH, FWA, WWE, WCW, Ect. That could give a more rounded encyclopaedia for this place and something that I don’t think Wiki has.

I’m also pondering something with title categories I just need to define it more cause right now I’m thinking along the lines of one group per company for titles defended in that company in its run but also specifying specific titles so say all World, United States, X-Division, Women’s, Television, ect as well as one that defines World titles not just world heavyweight because I don’t think say the NWA World Television title is a heavyweight title and although World Heavyweight titles are not exclusive to heavyweight it does kind of make it look weird if there is a World Television title in with a World heavyweight, if that makes sense anyway.

Anyway thanks for the welcome and give me a shout on what you think of my ideas if you can, thanks TheWho87 08:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This may be a late edit but this is something I think I need to add, since doing my additions here (mostly in the years) I find it rather annoying that it’s a miss mash of how the events are set for example it may be under its event name (like Unforgiven) or under the event name with the company initials (like WWE Unforgiven) now I don’t know about anyone else but this is rather pointless to me and also I feel that if this place was to be one to be solely on wrestling then there is the great idea of allocating one page per event even if the event is recurring.

Also with me updating the years (I have done 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006 & 2007 so far) I have noticed that for 2007 there is a different format to the debuts and deaths which I haven’t seen for the other years and I’m curious if you would want them all in the table format or just listed (like I saw on the others and followed through on the ones I did till I came across 2007 later)

Hope you don’t think this is me being picky I just though this place looked good and with some uniformity could make things easier. TheWho87 14:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I get your direction on the alumni categories that was just an idea I had which might not have been good, but I do think that all the key companies should have one like WWE, TNA, ROH, NJPW, AAA & CMLL and others which may come to mind just for the fact their key companies globally.

I might be on and off from time to time and since I have a lot of free time I may do some things which might be useful and some not either way if I do something which aint great just gimme a word and I’ll take not of it, for now the key thing I have seen about here that I’d personally change is what to change the wikied pages (I’d get onto some when I find time) and also to do individual event pages because no offence but the whole one page with the yearly breakdown just screams wiki to me and if you break it down to single pages then you can have things like event notes and such which would be something I don’t see on wiki. And one thing I would say you would need to try and look at is trying to define a way on how a page should be named for its set up so for example would a wrestler come under their real or gimmick name for the page and would an event just be named as the event or would the acronym be added for the company in which it is promoted under be added before.

I hope those make sense if not I need to get more sleep lol.TheWho87 22:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I’ll try and get some people although I don’t know who might be interested, also what do you think of the formatting I have done for the years most noticeable 1997 and 1998 I think they look rather good in that format which is kind of how the template you put up but instead of events under a group their all together and sorted by date which is also what I do for title changes, significant events births, deaths debuts and such.--TheWho87 13:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I am with you on that these days their can be too many events I just got bored earlier and added loads, I didn’t add every company I actually had a load of British ones but thought best not to add them in but personally in recent years I think priority should go to the key companies with staying power or who do have a strong fan base and who do draw top talent to their show (Like CHIKARA, CZW, ECWA, NWA, PWG, ROH, AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, AAA, CMLL, 1PW, IPW:UK)

Also so you know the source I get most of my event dates from is http://www.cagematch.net/ which I feel is one of the best sites out there for wrestling (although it is in German).

Also so you know that for now I’m hopefully planning on finishing the year topics first before moving on to much else, by that its basically filling in the years in the 90’s and 2000’s (which is the point in at now) with all PPV’s as well as the other events then working on titles and birth & debut years when working on the individual wrestler pages. --TheWho87 22:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Moving Away From Wikipedia
This category lists a series of categories of nationalities of wrestlers of either their birth or from the character they played.

I know this might sound stupid but I was thinking this wikia is meant to be solely on professional wrestling right? Then would that not mean their would not be things like Category:American professional wrestlers it should be something like Category:American wrestlers or Category:American promotions and so forth, the professional name was only there in the wikipedia pages and this would give this place a way to move away from the wiki rips plus it also means that you can know which pages have been edited from being wikipedia rips

One drawback means it would be an idea to delete the pages Category:American professional wrestlers, Canadian professional wrestlers, English professional wrestlers as well as Category:Professional wrestlers by country, Category:Mexican professional wrestlers, Category:Female professional wrestlers

That would only then leave topics having Professional in it and they can just be moved and renamed.

Sorry if this all sounds weird I just think this might be a good way to move away from Wikipedia and become its own Wikia if that makes sence-TheWho87 18:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Great now I know this is the direction your after I’ll expand on it when I go through. Also from what I see I think its great that you have turned on what Wikipedia had by having those billed and born from one country in the same set having it defined by birth makes things a lot easier in terms of simplifying things.--TheWho87 21:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Birth year categories and redirects
first off main reason i added them was i say that most of the other pages had them as well so thought they were to be added seeing as you dont want them i will stop adding and remove the ones i have done

in regards to the Tijari thing it was because i saw that he was down as being under that name during a early WWF run hence why it was added it was not added as a spelling mistake it was added as an acctual name he had used--TheWho87 08:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry for the re edit here i just want to clarify something, when it comes to redirects i can see the point of not doing them for one off names thats understandable but for any name they have wrestled under for a considerable length of time would that be viable for a redirect for example i was about to finish off Tazz as i know i have done Taz which is his old ECW name but i also have a record of him using the following too Tasmaniac, Tasmaniac #1, Tasmaniac Noga, Tasmanian Devil, Tazmaniac so would these all be viable for redirects or just the main ones?, BTW for this im using a rather reliable source of cagematch.net which tends to have all the main names a wrestler has used also i'd guess real names should also be added in unless their simalar to their name in the ring and one other minor thing i have to ask is say someone who has initials type of thing as their main name like A.J. Styles or T.J. Wilson would it be logical to have a redirect as both say A.J. Styles and AJ Styles cause i know from experience that full stops in searches is down to personal preferance and i dont use them and some people i know do so kinda covering all bases having one down for each you know--TheWho87 08:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Category Web Idea
Me again, I was just thinking of what could be a rather good web of categories for this place, most of which are already up and going and they tend to lead back to the main content page what I am thinking of is having one category on the main content page for the promotion then have the following categories inside of that for that specific promotion, it may look big but if this place is to have every piece of wrestling information on it then this would be a easy and straight forward set up, I thought it would be best to have one on the key promotions around the world (WWE, WCW, ECW, ROH, TNA, NWA, AWA, NJPW, AJPW CMLL & AAA) as well as one for independent wrestling which would cover anything in-between and maybe could contain sub categories to different regional areas (like US, Canada, Mexico, UK, Japan ect) or just have them all together under the same roof, anyway this isn’t really something set in stone and seeing as you one of the admin around here I though best put forward this idea to you first before doing it in practice.

This is a basic idea on how it would be set out.


 * World Wrestling Entertainment (main topic in the content page)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment alumni (any people who have worked for the company would go in here)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment championships (all titles that the company have used would go in here)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment current roster (anyone current under contract to the promotion in here)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment current development roster (any wrestlers under contract to the promotion but in a development deal would be in here)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment events (any non pay per view events by the promotion)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment pay-per-views (any pay per view events the promotion holds would be in here)
 * World Wrestling Entertainment tag teams and stables (any stables or tag teams that have appeared in the company would go in here)

The above would go for all the promotions but if they are defunct (like WCW & ECW) then the current roster pages would not be used, also for example if they don’t have a development territory or are not on pay per view those sections would be voided too.

Here is an idea on how the independent sections would be set out.


 * Independent Wrestling
 * Independent championships
 * Example Promotion A championships (any any promotion not already covered could have a category in this group just for their titles, this would mostly cover any titles not covered in other categories)
 * Independent events
 * Example Promotion A events (any promotion not already covered could have a category in this group just for their teams and events, this would mostly cover any events not covered in other categories)
 * Independent tag teams and stables
 * Example Promotion A tag teams and stables (any promotion not already covered could have a category in this group just for their tag teams and stables, this would mostly cover any tag teams and stables not covered in other categories)

I always forget to add by signature to these things lol--TheWho87 12:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol I know the OWW thing and went through a few links on it earlier I think their is about 20 or so pages left that I missed but you do know OWW is active its just not maintained right its just some ass who took all the data from the original and his domain and made a new one.

I really would say that Cagematch.net should be a great source its the best online wrestling resource I have ever found thing is its German kind of the only drawback.

I do have MSN I just don’t wish to give out my address in such a public way last time I did that I got hooked on by some spam shit and I have only just got that over with buy I’ll add you up if you want.--TheWho87 23:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you but you need to have a word with this WikiD guy from what i see he is posting things under the Professional type (like for example Pro Hardcore Wrestling Rulebook and Professional wrestling rulebook and i have no clue why their are 2 and he is also posting up material which i feel is not real and he has given zero sources to them like Zack Rodes, Corporation of Hardcore Wrestling, Adam Jarrettt‎, CHW Match Types‎, Derek Lemieux, Jaci Wilson‎, Code of Spirit Academy‎ & Stars Wrestling Society Hall of Fame‎--TheWho87 22:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

AAA Categories & MSN
Yeah that whole AAA category tree is kind of how I think all the promotions should be laid out cause the main article is on the contents, then inside it has the categories for the alumni, current roster (anyone working their the past 6 months) championships, teams and stables plus events and PPV events that’s something I am going to try and put in on all the main key leagues.

Also I tried that email thing but it didn’t work but I think I can find a way around it, join up to this forum or this one  and send me a PM on both my username is TheWho87 both are secure and I’m admin on both places, first is an efed second is a caw and graphics forum. --TheWho87 00:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

ECW Titles & Other Stuff
Hope you got the last message cause I haven’t heard anything from you bout it, anyway I had a though from all places I have seen they throw the ECW title from the original ECW and the current ECW title in WWE together and thought why? So as an idea I thought it might be a good idea to have them broken up here because technically their different titles, the one in the original ECW was considered a world title when the current one isn’t, so that’s why I have moved all the relevant info on the old title under the ECW World Heavyweight Championship and all the stuff on the current belt to ECW Heavyweight Championship basically the same but when it comes down to it the first and all ECW World Heavyweight pages made would be specifically for the original belt where as everything for the current one would be on the ECW Heavyweight pages, its basically splitting up the pages.

I think it might also be good for the World Heavyweight Championship because they bundle that together with the WCW title when although they look the same their not (in my view the WCW title ended its existence when WCW folded likewise with the ECW title so their use in another company who bought them out is not really the original championship) if you get what I mean, also I think the NWA and TNA title could have the same treatment as well but that’s further down the list.--TheWho87 11:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Promotion & Championship Page Guides
Just playing about with layouts of pages but what do you think of pages for promotions set out like this International Pro Wrestling: United Kingdom, it would have a sub page for promotion history, current roster, alumni and a history for events.

Also I was toying with their championships for some ideas on the layouts for them too so have a look at this one IPW:UK Championship, there is sub pages for a list of champions, title changes, as well as a page for all the matches the title has been defended in (titles don’t tend to be defended as much so for lesser promotions could include them all for WWE & TNA maybe the key ones), and for the length and reign stats on another page.

Hope these are good ideas and layouts and if its alright I’d use these guides and put them in force for other promotions and titles.

Also their was a big of a problem with Mounty earlier over the logos I re uploaded, sure I uploaded what’s already up here but I feel that the images I uploaded were more clearer in file names and a lot more uniform to others I had uploaded that would make the files more easier but the guy I think has a problem about this, also he reverted some stuff I did when I removed links to wikipedia which I feel should only be used sparingly here instead of what he had reverted back to which was about 10 links in one section all to wikipedia when some could have been for this site.--TheWho87 10:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I happen to think I'm in the right.--Mounty 19:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Request and sorry
I'm sorry for making a sock to get in touch with you but I saw no other way...I would like to request that my Monnitewars account be unblocked as I have been behaved for the past few months on Simple English just check my Editor Review. You can trust me to behave now so please will you unblock me?--Monnitewarsrequest (aka Monnitewars) 19:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

why
why has my page been deleted i could have edited it back there were no spoilers on the page?Suckup 103 15:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

protection
hey can you plz lock my user talk from being edited it was changed by a unkown user but it has been fixed thnks it would be greatly appreciated if no more vandilism occured on my talk pgs Suckup 103 17:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

No Vandilism
why was my page deleted for One Night Stand? Suckup 103 19:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fan
The fan category was not a sample it was being worked on I just put sample so i had somthing to work with

leave me a message at my user talk
Ty For the help but i ment the image will not fill the box and when i try to put the image up it only gives me the size bar and left to right

Reason
Can i just say that message was a reply to him asking me why i reverted back which was those championship box things i added/updated which he must not have seen when he reverted back i dont care what he does all i did was revert back to get those boxes back--TheWho87 14:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted page showing in Special:Allpages
Hi, I saw your question in IRC one minute after you left. This is a typical caching issue. I purged the page and now it should be ok (otherwise it should have fixed itself after some time). --Avatar 20:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)